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What's It About...

For the past two years, we have kicked around the idea of starting a podcast. As podcast junkies, we understood the power of them to get a message out to the masses and make an impact, but we just could never get it off the ground. 

Have you ever had any projects like that?

We’d dive in, then life would take over and other projects would gain priority.

Well, we finally got tired of that and said, damn it, we are doing this.

We committed!

In this episode, we are giving you a first formal taste of The Push Podcast and we’re so excited because we have SO MUCH we wanna cover with you! Such as…

• Personal growth
• Parenting
• Marriage
• Finances
• Starting your own business
• Vulnerability 
• Communication
• Parenting

...and the list goes on and on!

One of the big areas we will focus on will be personal development. Doubling down on this has made a HUGE impact on both of our lives! 

There so many great options when it comes to coaching and personal development programs that we ourselves have tried - some are great and some… not so much.

Throughout all these courses, books, and conferences - the most important lesson we’ve learned is that sometimes people just need a PUSH in life.

Whether this mean to communicate better with others or to start living the life they want for themselves. This is the crux of our conversation today and a foundation of the PUSH podcast so we are so excited that you are here.

So click play above or head over to your favorite podcast player (Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher), and join us for episode 1 - and hopefully, many more!

  

Want to find a specific topic? 

• Embracing vulnerability and aging confidently (09:02)
• The five major categories most people struggle with (12:11)
• Pouring positive affirmations into your life (13:23) 
• Introducing the concept of micro failures in parenting (17:52)
• The story of Janelle and Eddie back in 2009 (21:41)
• Pushing through things to make them part of your learning process (27:55)

 

Where To Learn More...

• PUSH Community Facebook Group
• Janelle's website

 

Episode Transcript...

Disclaimer: The Transcript Is Auto-Generated And May Contain Spelling And Grammar Errors

 

Janelle & Eddie:

Yes, it started The Push Podcast in its full effect. Why are your eyes so big right now? Cause I'm so excited. Hey friends, welcome to The Push Podcast with Janelle and Eddie Copeland. People are going to say, why the heck did they choose the word Push? And I'll tell you we went through 97 iterations of what this was going to be called. It started with Cope with us and then we really like action words because we believe we're action takers. So we were looking at the 900 books on our bookshelf and I was like, God, I really like things that tell you to do something, an action word. And then somehow like in the title of some stuff, I don't know it was the sentence or saw a book called Nudge. I saw the, it wasn't a book called Nudge, but I was like, Oh that's too friendly. Push. We're here to Push.

 

Eddie:

Yeah. And you know when it comes to friendly, like Janelle is not friendly.

 

Janelle:

that's not true. I have one of the friendliest people you'll ever meet

 

Eddie:

but she will Push it. So I, but we all have different ways.

 

Janelle:

Wow. Okay. Well, now it is tuned me out. Set me up like that. So I thought it was a, it was a gift. Like I want to give people a push because let's be real. We all need a push. Right. And a nudge sometimes too friendly and yeah, you have friends that might want to nudge you in a direction, they give you some advice and then you're like, Oh, she might've been too sweet with her delivery, so I'm not even listening to her. Right. So

 

Eddie:

you actually said that title like right off the cuff and I was like, oh, I got chills. That's really good.

 

Janelle:

Yeah, your eyes got big just like they did when we started this. And you were like, that's it. I'm like, that's it. Just Push.

 

Eddie:

That's how we need it.

 

Janelle:
The Push Podcast. Why are we doing this? Edward Copeland

 

Eddie:

I think, well, right now as we speak, it is October 14th, 2019. So if you are listening to this for the first time, um, this is the first one. And I think we're at this point in time where we're doing so much that we said let's do something more. There's something else. Cause we are dumb, that's why. No, but I think that we have been coaching and in this personal development space for about two years now.

 

Janelle

Well, we've been personally developing for probably five or six years or so. But we've been coaching since 2017

 

Eddie:

right. And then before that we were in corporate leadership and Oh, it's still coaching. So this has been a this is 20 years in the making right now.

 

Janelle:

So I think it's important to say though, yes, your rights. October 14th, 2019 I kind of makes me feel like when you put that on this, it's like a stamp. Like I used to scrapbook any ladies out there used to scrapbook. Like you got to put the date, you're going to look back at this. Like four years from now I'd be like, Oh my God, look at the 2019 Eddie and Janell, they were so cute. And they're totally different. At least that's our hope, right? Because we like to kind of live our lives. Like, if you knew me last week, you really don't know anymore. And that's because of every week, every day, or trying to consume new information, we're trying to be around friends that Uplevel us or not even friends. Like I don't think Alex Tucson from Peloton knows that. He's like my daily inspirational life coach. Shout out to Alex Tucson,

 

Eddie:

here's this one day, maybe we can get them on the podcast. That'd be amazing.

 

Janelle:

Oh, amazing. So he says the same daycare. I'm here to babysit you. You got 90 seconds to get it together. He says you got 90 seconds to get your shit together. And fun facts. I read recently that on average it takes a human being between six and 90 seconds to actually get their shit together. By the way, were there people were going to cuss on this podcast just to let you know? Um, so you might want to listen to us if you have small children with earphones that were, they're called, I was gonna say AirPods here's phones

 

Eddie:

wireless. This might, you may be watching listening to this in 2030 and so you may be thinking, what the heck is in headphones?

 

Janelle:

It may be VR and you're upset because you can't see our faces.

 

Eddie:

Yeah, we're all chipped in. Audio just comes through our brains. But who are you today? Like when you think about the date I just gave you and if we're going to timestamp this and your scrapbooking, what's on that? Scrap

 

Janelle:
me like Janelle Copeland. Okay, I know who you are now. Copeland's scrapbook page. Ready go. I'm a mother of three teenage daughters and if you're listening to this and you're like, well I have really young kids, let me tell you, I can help save your life because it's so interesting. What I love about getting older, I thought you think when you're 20 that you know everything right? And really you don't know shit. Right? I think when you're 20 you think you're at your prime, your body's probably in your best shape and you think you literally have it all figured out. Cause you probably just got away from your parents. You've got a little independence and you just kind of think you're the shit. It's so untrue. So then you step into your thirties and your thirties bring you more wisdom because maybe you're buying a house, maybe you're getting married, maybe you're making your relationships more seriously.

 

Janelle:

Cause I don't want our millennial friends to be falling apart cause they're 30 and they're not at the level that I'm telling them and they're at. That's one thing we coach constantly on our younger millennial friends. It's like, girl, pick yourself up off of the floor. It is okay. You do not need to rush to be married. It's not going to go anywhere. You're going to be better prepared. So anyway, back to thirties brought, a lot of challenges, but also it brought a lot of wisdom. Yeah. And then I'm 41 today on October 14th, oh my god you just put your age out there right now, you better shut your ass up. So um, Eddie's two years younger than me. I'll let you talk about your own self in a second. But I'm 41 and I feel the most confident I've ever felt. I feel like I respect my body more than I've ever respected it. I feel like my motto right now is like the 80-year-old Janelle Copeland is really depending on me.

 

Janelle:

Like she's depending on me to make strong financial decisions. So she has some to rest her head, do you think at the age you are you started to think more about getting older. I'm starting to embrace it and be excited about it. Like I feel like every day I'm making her proud. Like whether it's reading a new book as I asked myself, well would the 80-year-old Janell is she gonna need this? Oh God, she's so proud of me. Yes, I'm gonna read it. Right? Yeah. So I think it's important to kind of like vision cast. Like who are you trying to please? I'm trying to please my damn self and just be the best version of myself I can be. So that way I set my future Janell up to win. Right. So yeah, I dunno. What are you telling me about yourself? Cause I could go on and on. Not because I'm selfish but because it felt like

 

Eddie:

I will see. You guys know my name is Edward Copeland. I bet I go by Eddie.

 

Janelle:
There was a point, hold on. There was a point when you started telling everyone to call you Edward and it was so stupid

 

Eddie:

and I, and I thought about that. So my twenties I was Eddie, my thirties I'm still Eddie, but I think as I get into your age bracket.

 

Janelle:

Wow. Did he just do that? Really,

 

Eddie:

but as I get older, when I get into like the forties and maybe fifties I'm going to go by Edward because I think it's very distinguished and then when I get into like the 70s and eighties when you just don't care, just call me ed.

 

Janelle:

I think Eddie's jealous of whole figured out. Eddie is jealous of me. I think that you're the one that secretly wants to be old. The kids, the kids definitely make fun of you. Like dad, stop acting like you're 80 like he says some random stuff you guys like, what do you call them? Like little sayings. I don't know the, of course, I can't think, I don't know what it's called, but I can't think of like he'll say stuff like a chip off the old shoulder, like stupid stuff like that. That's just like, cause 

 

Eddie:

I'm always trying to bring things back. I think that we're in this trendy world where if you don't like really focus on bringing things back, but I will tell you where I am right now. I am in my thirties I am trying to figure out how to be a father of teenage daughters. So we have three daughters. One we just dropped off at college and two other younger ones that are in high school, which is pretty awesome and we have a good time with them. But right now I am trying to like figure out the balance in life, which we'll talk about in another podcast about that doesn't even really exist. But I'm also like, we just came back from a conference and so I'm so right. We're like right now, so I'll kind of give you her October 14th we went to a conference and they were talking about a lot about vulnerability, right? And so I realized that I am a person that I read the Bernay Brown book about vulnerability, but I took it as, Oh yeah, you're supposed to tell people that you used to be used to suck at things, not that you currently suck at things.

Eddie:

now after that conference, I'm like, Oh my God. Like I really with vulnerability because I'm okay with telling people like, Hey, yeah, 10 years ago or 15 years ago, I slept well, everybody sucks at something 15 years ago. What do you suck at right now? So I'm a person trying to embrace the vulnerabilities and maybe the shame that I have around certain things because you just went deep. No, I'm just telling you what I am right now. So if you start talking about money, I freak out. Right? So, uh, that is something that I'm trying to push through for vulnerability standpoint. So [inaudible] out there if you have whatever it may be, shame or whatever about financials and stuff like that. Cause I know that is rampant for males especially. We're going to talk about that in this podcast. But also I'm like embracing that. I'm getting a little bit older.

 

Eddie:
I'll wake up aches and pains a little bit and that is something I'm trying to embrace as well. So I am a 30-year-old male with no first of all 30 30 I'm in my thirties is money. What I meant to say damn lie you're 39 years old. Year 39 no it's not the six months. I am 39 and five months but I'm just trying to embrace all those things and so we are doing this podcast because I think this is an opportunity for us to like share what we're growing through as well as to maybe help you with things that we went through before, whether it be in our marriage or in our kind of personal lives that we bring to the marriage. That, is that a good way to put it?

 

Janelle:

No, but it's fine. They get what you're saying. So I, I think it's important to talk about the fact that through our journey for the last 15 years, we've, we're going to get ready to celebrate our 15 year wedding anniversary on January. What's the date? 16th but don't look at me like that. You know that I'm not good with dates like that. I don't know if it's the 15th the 16th

 

Eddie:

right? Right now every year people, she asked me what, what's our anniversary again? And you know, I understand why because Jordan's birthday is on, which is our youngest is on the 14th

 

Janelle:

no, Jessica's birthday. My sister is on January 14th that's right. Our other, see look at you. Jordan's birthday is July 14th and then

 

Eddie:

Jasmine, our oldest is the 18th and so our anniversary is the 16th of January. It's just a lot of numbers. It's a lot of numbers and they're all close together and they all start with J

 

Janelle:

anyways, so we're getting ready to celebrate 15 years of marriage and it's been a long, hard road. Lots of ups and downs, lots of prideful and shameful moments, lots of happiness and sadness. And the tears and the triumphs and the failures and all of the things that have made us who we are today. And um, I think what you're talking about a second ago about being vulnerable, I think we've learned through the people that have been vulnerable with us that, wow, we're not in this alone. And that's the thing that everyone kind of goes through pain by themselves. Usually, you start the retreat. And what I found is like the more people are willing to share with me, the more my eyes light up and I can connect and my heart opens because I realize I'm not fighting this battle alone. Right? And so we're here to share things that we've gone through, that we've grown through that have made us better.

 

Janelle:

And then also we want to share the things that we're still learning every day today. So there've been five major categories that we've identified that either we struggle with or most of the people we help struggle with. And I like to call them the five Cs. The five CS are confidence, especially with women. Um, the second seat is clarity. People literally who are floundering around not knowing what their purpose is, not knowing why they're doing what they're doing every day or what they should be doing. You really struggle. And I've been there for sure. The next thing is communication. People just like have good intentions, but they just do not know how to express themselves. They don't know how to talk about expectations. They don't know how to communicate in times of tragedy or difficult conversations though. That's just like major avoidance is usually people's natural reaction.

 

Eddie:

Yeah. And I think just to add to that, sometimes you don't even know how to communicate to yourself. Right? You don't know what to say. What should you be saying? And, and like you, you lead yourself astray cause you the way you talk to yourself. And so I think that is, it is something is inner work, but that's communication.

 

Janelle:

We can go super deep on that because we're really big on positive affirmations. Yeah. And you don't have to be two years old to have your parent pour positive affirmations in you. We give our students positive affirmations and yesterday we ran a poll about what do you want to hear us talk about on the podcast and one of our girls, she's 27 yeah, she was like, please can you talk about the positive affirmations? I've been trying to read to them every day to myself and I feel already like I'm changing. Like first she started off as a liar. Like you're trying to brainwash yourself. I am beautiful, I am smart, I am capable. But if you don't say that to yourself, who's going to say that to you? Right.

 

Eddie:

And you can't rely on the world to tell you exactly what you need to hear all the time. And we are. We always are. We're trying to reprogram ourselves constantly and we get programmed based on the life of the lies and the things that we take in and whether it be television, social media, and it, it programs us a certain way of thinking about ourselves that may not be healthy in these affirmations. I think in the positive thinking, the positive outlook on life is important to reprogram yourself and get yourself to a place where, Hey, you know, I can look at life in a better way so that I can get better things. Yeah. Yep.

 

Janelle:

And if you want a copy of the affirmations, you can go to Janellecopeland.com those are there. That's our gift to you. But moving on number four of the five CS comparison, this is a huge one. And I feel like we say that women struggle with comparison a lot, but I think men struggle with comparison to you, right? It just is in the form of like ego.

 

Eddie:

Yeah. It's definitely ego. And I want to say the word, you know, the ego all the way. Like I think it stems from a point of alpha male who is the top dog and all those different things and what this person has in their life. Or if you're young, how pretty this person's girlfriend is and all that. Who's got the hot chick, who's got that, who's got the biggest package, you know, kind of things that I think that, uh, it comes a different degree for different men, but I definitely think it is there.

 

Janelle:

Okay. And then the last of the five CS is complacency a K a comfort zone. Oh yeah. So we talk a lot about your comfort zone will literally kill you. And again, we've got so many stories to share with you. When we were not growing, let's say 2014, 2015, that's really when we kind of had our coming to Jesus moment with each other as a couple where we were like, okay, what literally are we doing right now? Yeah. I think we are not on track with anything. And you just feel like stuck and then you realize that the comfort zone like you're, you're striving for happiness, but really you should be striving for fulfillment to be fulfilled. Right? And when you're not striving to accomplish anything, you're not really able to check any boxes off of anything. So there's no real fulfillment. Right. Yeah.

 

Eddie:                  

And I think when you think about all those CS is there's five of them.

 

Janelle:

Yeah. Confidence, clarity, communication, comparison, compare place and see.

 

Eddie:

Yeah, and when I was just gonna say was when you, you find yourself in like your deepest, darkest moments, especially as either as a couple or as an individual. It's like one, three or four of those things are out of alignment and they kind of run into each other, right? So if you're struggling with clarity, typically you're struggling with, with complacency at the same time because it's when you don't have clarity, it's very easy just to go to your comfort zone because that's what you know, especially when you're dealing with the unknown. Right. And so the, I think that those things are so important and, and when you think about 2014 for us, like I can tell you all those things are out of whack for me. And I think that when you don't have the right things that you're saying to yourself from communication, you're not saying the right things to your partner.

 

Eddie:

Like all those things I think we will really want to touch on. We really want to make sure that we shed light on like what we've gone through, what we've seen other people go through and then what we think, Hey this is a different way to look at it. This is a way to look at it that can move you forward. You don't have to like you know, have a catastrophic change in your life. You don't necessarily have to have a relationship end in divorce. Like there are ways to manoeuvre and navigate through these things so you have a better life.

 

Janelle:

Yup. And we'll talk a lot about micro-steps. Micro, right?

 

Eddie:
Micro failures. Micro. Like when our oldest didn't know that you have to change the lint from the, was it

 

Janelle:

for parents? Lynn trap. Let me just tell you because in this podcast we're going to be talking about Parenthood. We're going to be talking about finances, about marriage, about so many things about running a business, about controlling your thoughts, personal development, all of it. But speaking of micro losses and failures. So one thing is giving maybe four years ago, Kayla, she's 16 so that would have made her 12 I tell her, open up this can of, what was it even like a can of, I'm trying to think what the hell do I use this can a can of cranberry? Yes, we make scratch cranberry sauce, but some people who shall remain anonymous really do like the canned ocean spray. No, I'm not talking about you. So I told her open this can of cranberry because see people are judgy like that. They'll be like, what kind of canned does she open on Thanksgiving?

 

Janelle:

I don't do canned green beans, I don't do canned gravy. And anyway, so I tell Kayla opened the can with the can opener and she goes, which one is the can opener look like? What the hell? I was like, what do you mean here? It's right here. So I give it to her and she's flopping it around and it's just like falling into her hand. She goes, how do I do this? And I said you don't know how to use a can opener. What in the world is wrong with you? And she goes, well, you're my mom. If I don't know how to use a can opener, would it be your fault in that my friends is a micro failure? You little, that's when it's okay to like in your head, call your kids little bitches. Then here's another one, Jasmine. She's like, she's gotta be, it was this year, was it 17 or 18 years old?

 

Janelle:

Right before we sent her off into the world, right. And I said she had been doing laundry and I said, girl, you're about to start a fire. Change the dang lint drawer, the lint thing in the lint trap in the dryer. And she goes, what's that? And I was like, what? And she goes, what is that? It's the drawer thing that you pull out. You have to take the lid off or it's going to cause a fire. She goes, well, how am I supposed to know that? I was like, okay, I'm going to go sit down with myself and just ask myself like, where's the frickin handbook for being a mother in life? Because told me that I was like, yeah, that's a micro failure for parenting right there. That's a pretty macro, like that's a big failure. Like you don't know where the damn lint drawer is.

 

Janelle:

That's a problem, right? And you started to think what else did we not teach them? What other blocks of shifts? And if you guys know our kids, you're going to like listen to this and say, Oh my God, they have the best kids. Our kids are super smart. Think God. I woke up this morning, wrote down three things I'm grateful for every day and the first thing I wrote was kind of my kids are so smart, but now I'm filming this. I'm like, they're not really that smart. I think parents out there right now, I want to turn to your kids

 

Eddie:
today at some point and I want you to ask them, do you know what a can opener is? Do you know what a lint trap is? Also, you know where this soap goes when you wash your hands.

 

Janelle:
Do you know that when you are cooking with hot oil, you cannot go straight into the scene and put it down the drain? No, that was not, there was a 17-year-old kid that I hired at the bakery who again shall remain anonymous, fries, something in a pan with hot grease and then go straight over to the sink. Baloo up the whole entire drain system at the bakery and his mom literally were like, I'm so sorry. I guess I never taught him that. That's not how you discard hot grease. So there's going to be a couple of things. We'll talk about parenting later.

 

Eddie:

Yeah, wait a second. You mentioned a bakery in a, people have never even heard of us. They're like, what the hell is she talking about?

 

Janelle:

Back to me. So I've owned it a bakery, it's called the cake mamas. It's in Los Angeles, is in Glendora, but no one knows where the head Glendora is. So that's part of LA County and I've owned it for a decade. Yeah, and we'll talk about that story later. But in 2009 Eddie and I both were leaders for a large organization that just decided they couldn't go on any longer. So they went out of business and we were displaced. We had three children, small children, four, six and eight. We had a $5,000 a month mortgage payment. We had two vehicles, we had tons of debt and God said no. So our jobs got taken away, our income got taken away. We were paying child support. That's a whole nother thing. Yes, I have a baby mama. Lots of people don't even know that Jasmine and Kayla are my stepkids cause we don't use those words.

 

Janelle:
But I've been in their life since they were nine months and three years old. We literally don't remember life without each other. And we'll be talking about like baby mama drama too, which you know, just so you know, we just got back from this conference in fab Yolo. The girl's moms spent three nights at our house hanging out with the kids. And so we have a really great relationship that we are so blessed and thankful for, but it's been challenging. And we'll talk about some of those challenges. Maybe fab will come on and do a podcast with us too. That'd be awesome. So the thing is we're here to inspire you, but quite frankly, we're here to learn with you and share the things that inspire us daily because we're those friends that like we learned something and we're like, Oh my God, the rest of the world might not know this.

 

Janelle:

People need this for them, for their lives, right? So we just want to share, we want to love on you. We want to grow. And it's taken us two years, two years ago, people were asking us to start a podcast. We bought these mikes and we just, our lives are busy. Let me just paint a picture for you. Like I hate when people say they're busy because like, no one person is busier than the other and it's quite annoying. However, like just to paint a picture, it's October 14th today, this afternoon I'm leaving to go do a Disney event, which I'm super thankful for with the cake mamas. So we're going to be at this amazing event promoting our business. And just hanging out with some cool influencers. And then tomorrow morning I'm going to a conference where Gary Vaynerchuk is going to be there and some other really cool people that I follow.

 

Janelle:

And then I get on a plane. Wednesday morning I would get my hair done, but Thursday, Oh and I'm volunteering at the school on Wednesday. Thursday I get on a plane and I'm taking a red-eye to go to Canada because I'm hosting a, an event, a business networking event for women in Toronto. And then I'll be back on Monday. We do our coaching and then there's all kinds of things happening. And then I'm going to be, I'm here for 10 days and I'm going to be spending two days, 24 hours volunteering for Jordan's de task film festival. It's not a film, it's an acting thing. We have two actresses. Yeah. And then I leave for seven days to go host 21 women at the IRL retreat, which is the in real-life retreat. And I'm gone for a week. Literally. I won't even be able to like breathe until mid-November.

 

Eddie:

Yeah. So this is our, this is our lives. This is the last time I will talk to you for four weeks. Not true, Just cause then people are going to be like, Oh, she's chasing her dreams. Taking care of her. Yeah. And so I will be here salty because she's doing all the cool things and I have to, um, I still have, I have a corporate job. Oh my God, I'm so, so obviously you can see that this is going to be a fun podcast. We will have a, a lot of fun here. I'm telling you, we are very funny people. You can just tell that. You can tell people that I tell people that we are funny. Yes. I am not a joke. Okay. Uh, no, let's end with,

 

Janelle:

yeah, what are some things, what is one key thing that you think you're working on right now?

 

Eddie:

A vulnerability. I think I'm working on being real and not that I'm like, Hey, I'm not real or fake or anything like that. But I think it's important to step in and lean into the things that, not just like, I think I've always strived to grow and get better and, and I think that that's something that has always been there for me because I'm a competitive person. I've been in athletics, I all these things that I've been trying to get better as a human being, but I think I'm at a place now after going into this conference, which I love going to places in learning is like I'm looking at him saying the, there's an emotional part of me that I need to work on that's gonna be an unlock for me that's going to help me through this next decade of my life. I think we need therapy. Like I literally had, maybe this is like a therapy right here. It is. I've been thinking a lot about

 

Janelle:

like I'd talk, I'd love to go talk to a therapist and just kind of like unload once a week and I don't know when I would have time for that. But that's important, you know, to be able to cause you to want to bring your best. Like I don't want you to come home after working for 12 hours and then I just unload on all, all of my crap on you that I've been dealing with. We don't do that. But sometimes you need that. That makes it seem like therapists get taken advantage of but they get paid highly for that. So deal with it.

 

Eddie:

Um, so but I think that what you'll get also is this, like this, is an opportunity for us to really use this vehicle too, to talk through the things that we're going through, but at the same time shed light on like how we're moving through things. Like we were talking about this podcast and we were talking about sharing our stories, but we move so quickly through things and sometimes like even the hard things like we're so forward-thinking, which I think is a great attribute for our relationship, that there are things that we have persevere through that people get really stuck. And so if we can give them the right things, the right strategies to help them get through those things, I think that that this podcast would serve people every single day. And we're going to have some fun with it too.

 

Janelle:

Well, agreed. But can I just tell you like, we don't push through things cause we're like amazing. We push through things because there are no other options for us. We also,

 

Eddie:

I told her she's not getting rid of me.

 

Janelle:

Okay. But we push through things and we do it in a way that what Eddie was trying to say is like, we just forget kind of sometimes where you've come from, right. We forget some of the struggles because the one thing I will tell you about Eddie and I is we don't hold grudges with anyone at any situation at any time. And so when you think about being vulnerable and sharing your stories, literally like, this is why you should journal because there were things that happened 10 years ago. I don't even remember. As you said, you said a second ago, like you know that we're an enterprising couple. Yeah. There was a horoscope that we read, right? What did you say?

 

Eddie:

Yeah, we were reading a magazine one day and it took us to, and we're not all into what does it call the horoscope or what is that? Astrology. Astrology. But it took our two signs and said that we enterprising couples like ours, our sides create things and go into,

 

Janelle:

and you guys, he's telling me about this. I'm like, what the hell are you sure? Was that your first marriage? Or

 

Eddie:

when it's those things and this, those things that like you see and you, especially when you're not, not sure, how's this going to work? And I think we were probably a few years into marriage and I saw that and it was like, wow, this is, this is an amazing sign of hope for me. Like, Oh wow, we're probably gonna create something together. And lo and behold, like we are. Right. And that's exciting. Yeah. And I remember it because I remember the most important

 

Janelle:

that up. Oh my God, husband, you're crazy. So one thing that I'm working on right now is I've realized recently there is no such thing as balance and I'm going to be talking about that. Like the things that I've been learning, I'm learning. Uh, I'm working on learning how to slow down, not from a standpoint of like doing less, but like saying no to things that are just not in alignment with where I'm trying to go with 80-year-old Janelle yeah, right. My family's really important right now. So I'm trying to stay focused and present for the kids, which is why I'm trying to volunteer at their school and just be a part of that because sending our kid off to college, the oldest, I was like, that happened way too fast. Like, and truth be told, I felt like I was one of the only moms on the planet that was like, yes, she's leaving.

 

Janelle:

 And the reason I say that is because all three of our children have totally different personalities. Would you agree? Yes. And the oldest, just like she, you could tell as you guys know, think back when you were 17 and 18. Do you know that psychologically 17 and 18-year-olds are wired for adventure? They're wired for exploration. And so it's time for you to go, you know, you don't need someone telling you what to do constantly, especially when you're not really good at receiving it. So I was like, oh, I'm so thankful that it is time for you to go away to college because now life gets to teach you the things that you refuse to learn from us. And it's sad that she's not with us every day, but it's so amazing and it's such a great time for her to be able to explore this version, this season of Jasmine. Right. So yeah. So we'll talk about some insights like that. Yeah, well

 

Eddie:

I still walk by her bedroom and I look in there. Thank you. Thinking she's going to be in there.

 

Janelle:

Okay. That Sally over here. She's literally guys 40 minutes away. Like it's not like she's on the other side of the continent. But anyways, we miss her. We love her. The point I'm trying to make is we're going through a lot of different seasons right now and I'm trying to figure out how to be the mom, how to be the business owner, how to grow our empire, how to manage all the finances, all the expenses, how to be present, how to not be on my phone too much, how to not say yes to too many things, how to still live my best life, how to be healthy, how to frickin intermittent fast. When your dumb ass husband loses 14 pounds after two weeks of intermittent fasting and you didn't even lose an ounce call commitment, that's called saltiness. That's what that is. So all of the things, and I think that when you hang out with people and you realize, Oh wow, they're struggling with the same things I'm struggling with. It makes you feel like you're part of a community, which we are. It's, it's the world and no one that you see winning in one area is winning in all areas. So

 

Eddie:

doing all this to say that we're here to do life with you and we're going to keep this podcast going because we know that it's going to add a tremendous amount of value. And we know that as you struggle and as you achieve, as you go through things, doing it in the community of people helps you. It allows you to see things in different perspectives different, differently. It allows you to step into confidence differently. It allows you to communicate differently. It allows you to, to take people's stories and to have clarity. It allows you to say, Oh my complacency, I got to get out of this comfort zone. And it allows you to look at all those things and say, wow, now I know how to communicate with my spouse nine how to communicate with myself better. So that's what we're here to do. We help, we want to give you a different way of looking at things. We want to give you perspective that enlightens you, but also we want to just do life with you for a little while.

 

Janelle:
Yup. Okay, perfect. So that's the, Oh, see, I almost said that's The Cope With Us Podcast. That name didn't make the cut. Lastly, Eddie is the last Copeland. He's a boy. He's a boy. Eddie didn't know his father, another episode another day, and we have three daughters. So clearly the Copeland name stops right here. And so he wanted to name the podcast, Cope With Us, and then the feedback from our podcast coach was like, it sounds like people are forced to deal with you then. Yeah, so that's not really a good name. He was so deflated and defeated. To Cope With Us, RIP. Welcome to The Push Podcast. Thanks for listening. We'll see you soon. See you guys later.